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		<title>05 WRX STi &#8211; Road to 450whp Part 2 (300whp to 450whp)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[300 whp was fun but like I mentioned in Part 1, there were some issues that I was not happy with.  After spending countless hours at IWSTI (where I do most of my research about my car), I decided 300whp just wasn&#8217;t enough. I wanted to play with the big boys&#8230; I wanetd more power&#8230; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>300 whp was fun but like I mentioned in Part 1, there were some issues that I was not happy with.  After spending countless hours at <a title="All about the subaru wrx sti" href="http://www.iwsti.com/forums/" target="_blank">IWSTI</a> (where I do most of my research about my car), I decided 300whp just wasn&#8217;t enough. I wanted to play with the big boys&#8230; I wanetd more power&#8230; I wanted a bigger turbo. This is where <a title="Best shop in Ga to get stuff done to your car" href="http://www.topspeedsales.com">TopSpeed</a> comes in.</p>
<p>I called Tray up at TopSpeed and told him I wanted more power and what he recommends.  His question was simple, how much power do I want and I answered 400whp.  The FP20g wouldn&#8217;t get me there, green would be closer, but his recommendation for my needs and budget was the FPRed.  He listed a whole bunch of things that need to be changed in the car for this turbo, told me the price, and I gave him the OK to proceed with the project.</p>
<p><span id="more-53"></span>The project got to a rocky start because FP was getting a ton of orders and it took a few extra weeks to get my turbo.  While I was waiting for my car to be ready, I started reading about this &#8220;Methanol&#8221; thing. I called Tray to ask him what this was all about and he said that for 500 bucks I could get 50 or more hp. I was very upset when he told me this because I was already over my budget but how could I not get this&#8230; this was probably the best dollar to horse power mod I could get so I told him to order it for me. Eventually TopSpeed got all the parts in and installed them.  The list of parts was:</p>
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<li>Ecutec</li>
<li>Perrin FMIC</li>
<li>FP Red</li>
<li>Perrin Big MAF</li>
<li>860 injectors</li>
<li>fuel pump</li>
<li>ACV-R</li>
<li>Tial BOV</li>
<li>SMC Meth kit</li>
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<p>Doug tuned my car and when everything was done, I went to pick up my car. They greeted me with the numbers I was looking forward to hearing: 455whp/435wtq. Two thumbs up for TopSpeed and Doug for such good work on my car. I was very happy with these numbers and the first thing I wanted to do was go out and try it out. Below is the dyno from that day:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.joeyrivera.com/images/car/afterandmeth.jpg"><img class="alignnone" title="Dyno" src="http://www.joeyrivera.com/images/car/afterandmeth.jpg" alt="" width="576" height="415" /></a></p>
<p>I had never been in a 400+ hp car before so I didn&#8217;t know what to expect.  I drove to the highway on the way home, looked around to make sure it was a safe straight to give the car a quick test and I floored it. WOAH! I could not believe how fast the car was&#8230; it was scary fast&#8230; almost too fast (well for the first couple times :p). I was so excited.  Every morning I couldn&#8217;t wait to get in my car and drive around.</p>
<p>Eventually I started getting lazy.  Because I was always getting on the gas, I was using up my meth pretty quick. I had a 5 gallon container that I would go fill up at TopSpeed every so often (about 1 hour away). I started getting lazy in the sense I didn&#8217;t want to go fast because I would use up the meth so I would have to refill the reservoir in the car and eventually drive back up to TopSpeed. It&#8217;s a silly reason really, but that&#8217;s what happened.</p>
<p>Looking back what would I have done differently.  I think I would have gone with an external wastegate&#8230; more for the sound but I guess it makes tuning a bit easier with boost or was it that you can hold boost better with it&#8230; or both? I think I would have also gone with a rotated setup, probably a GT35r and no meth. I have no issues with the red other than now if I want more power I need to go rotated since I don&#8217;t believe I can fit any bigger turbo in the stock location. I would have also gotten a trunk meth tank (bigger) so I wouldn&#8217;t have to refill so often (I could do that now for not much more money).</p>
<p>Actually, knowing what I know now, I wouldn&#8217;t buy an FP product anymore.  Why? Read <a title="Bad FP... bad" href="http://www.iwsti.com/forums/review-sti-vendors/129480-why-you-may-want-stay-away-fp-forced-performance-turbo.html" target="_blank">this</a>. If you do read it, it&#8217;s not because of a turbo or two going bad (things happen), it&#8217;s because of what the FP guy says about the Subaru community. I would think people trying to sell their products should know it&#8217;s a bad business practice to insult your possible customers.</p>
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